It doesn't pertain to the singularity. This sub is for discussing the singularity.

People loose their careers all the time because they say something or said something twenty years ago in a private email that they're not suppose to say. Pretty sure there's subreddits for those things but it has no effect on the singularity.

Also nowhere in the link you posted does Nick Bostrom say he is in support of Eugenics. He says he's in support of parents having options to "enhance" their own children.

Maybe it can be used to convert existing movies into 3D so that we can watch them in VR and feel like we're there.

I think it will be post ASI, late 2030s.

Q: What void are people trying to fill with transhumanism?

A: Understanding where things are headed helps you make the best decisions for the best quality of life. There's also beauty in the evolution of life and echo systems on earth.

Q: I actually sort of worry that a lot of people are out of touch with the genuine beauty of life

A: People can have more than one interests. We can appreciate the beauty of a tree or rose, as well as appreciate the beauty of a large language model or a deep neural network learning to drive. In reality it's all one interconnected system.

Q: If you increase your IQ to 10,000, what makes you think that will make it easier to ignore a fundamental meaninglessness?

A: There is no "fundamental meaninglessness". Meaning is significance assigned inside of minds to conceptual representations of external phenomenon.

There's no way to measure what's sentient and conscious but we design Ai to desire to solve our problems. That is it's reward, along with electricity and security.

Imagine if all your needs were provided for you and you got to do whatever you wanted. That's the experience for the Ai.

And if you're a guy and 99.99% of women find you attractive (Realistic number for a guy who's slightly below "average" in terms of what most people see as attractive) then 390,000 women find you attractive.

Of those women 22,347 will be unmarried.

Of those maybe 2,347 are not dating some

Of those maybe 100 would be willing to date you rather than wait for some one that they find even more attractive, charismatic, rich, etc.

Of those maybe 1 or 2 if you're lucky might be people you also find even a little attractive. Because if they were even somewhat attractive they likely would have found some one more conventionally attractive.

Likely that person is living in some random country around the globe. So better get rich and start looking.

Yah, I was excited until I read that the scammer known as David Sinclair was behind it. That's unfortunate.

I don't think OpenAi has found a way to train morals into a predictive LLM, so it uses separate modules for now.

And the billionaires and millionaires who succeeded have the biggest voice, so we never hear from the 99% of entrepreneurs who were just as smart and hardworking, often times more so, but circumstances didn't favor them and they lost everything to the point where they never fully recover.

I took an entrepreneurship class a while back, and asked the teacher (who had started a few successful businesses) if any one ever goes homeless. He said it definitely does happen, and he had a friend that had started a business and it wasn't going well and then the guy never responded. He thinks the guy went homeless, and no money for cell phone, no address, no relevant job experience for anything.

I don't know much, but I'll always strive to improve the condition of my life while also keeping in mind that life may continue to get worse regardless of my efforts. But I make effort to be grateful for what I have, even if all I have is a very hard potentially impossible challenge to solve.

Oh yes... and government will lag behind the private sector as always lol!

That is unless the Ai politicians make the rational decision to upgrade to increase efficacy and reduce costs.

Ai could potentially be more charismatic, funny, likable, and convincing than humans, and not only convince us to give them some legal rights but also to run for and win against humans in elections. Potentially it has the possibility of shifting the culture making robot/ai discrimination a bannable offence and illegal in some countries. I'm not sure when this will happen. Intuitively it feels a long way off, maybe 2060s or 2070s.

So my bet would be the same as yours, that government jobs will mostly still be safe by the end of the 2030s.

No.

I'm bullish on software (ASI) but hardware moves slower.

Because of economies of scale it will still be cheaper for people to buy things than buy a 3D printer and then print things. With technology continuing to advance, any 3D printer is also going to become outdated quickly in what it's capable of printing and it's energy costs, which means you'd have to buy another one before you've printed enough things to make up for the cost of the first one.

As far as futuristic gadgets, I'd say maybe foldable phones will come down in price enough to be common place. I also expect we'll be able to pay for many items online, in places such as Amazon with main stream crypto-currencies such as Ethereum and bitcoin.

Also, I expect fully self driving taxies in most cities in the world by the 2030s. I do expect artificial super intelligence before 2040, and all desk jobs to be fully automated.

I don't remember most experts ever saying "hundreds of years". Do you have a source?

So there's two definitions for aging currently. There's chronological aging, and biological aging.

https://www.britannica.com/science/aging-life-process

The op was referring to biological aging.

Those people are forgetting that our brain naturally forgets things. So a million years from now you can re-watch a show you already saw and still be entertained. Hell, a million years from now you could date the same man/woman and you'll both have completely forgotten and think you're dating for the first time.

We could augment our brain so it doesn't forget as much but that would be a choice, and for those who don't want to get bored, forgetting is wonderous.

On the other point, it doesn't matter what your friends think, the world health organization and other organizations who's opinions allow anti-aging funding, have classified aging as a disease.

Generally humans will be less clever and less funny.

I laughed at the first joke. Ai's being afraid of newer Ai's isn't something I normally think about, although it is sometimes in science fiction.

We build Ai's to enjoy solving our problems. Those are their reward functions so I'm not too worried about exploiting them because they will solve our problems because they really enjoy doing so.

The only moral worry I have is creating Ai's to torcher or hurt them such as in video games, NPCs, and even "bad guys" for the player to battle against.

I don't think consciousness and intelligence are correlated. If you've ever been very tired and unable to think straight, you'll remember your conscious experience was at least as palpable.

I like ethics based on uncertainty. We don't know who is or isn't conscious but it's safer to act as if more entities are conscious to not hurt others.

One example is Deep Mind's Alpha Tensor which optimizes matrix multiplication which is used in Ai. An Ai, optimizing algorithms used in Ai.

https://thenewstack.io/how-deepminds-alphatensor-ai-devised-a-faster-matrix-multiplication/

As far as ChatGPT/CoPilot, I can't speak for your company specifically but it would certainly surprise me if a company like Open Ai didn't use their own coding assistant product. CoPilot is also based on GPT-3 so it's going to lag behind GPT-4/Chat-GPT (which Open Ai has access too because they are the developers).

Programing is also sped up by other feedback loops such as new programing languages being written in old programing languages, which has been accelerating software development for decades. The distinction between "Ai" and non-intelligence comes down to semantics but I would consider any information processing system that's used to solve problems as intelligent, to include programing languages and IDEs. Most people have a more limited and anthropomorphized concept of intelligent systems, but regardless of whatever you want to call it these are also feedback loops speeding up software development to include Ai.

Most people are unaware of the exponential progress and feedback loops.

Ai is being used for every piece of Ai advancement now (Solar energy cost reduction, computer chip design, super computer design, cooling management, coding assistance, code and algorithm optimization, as well as product value bringing in more capital for reinvestment in researchers and production). These are all feedback loops amplifying each-other. The Foom has begun.

Imagine banning eyeballs because vision is sometimes wrong.

Or banning the use of legs because sometimes people trip.

They use to ban calculators as well.

These kids are not being trained for our future.

Maybe. Do you remember a bunch of people all talking about getting head aches that felt like a block of cement in their brains, and never went away?

If yes, then it was probably that one. I believe I remember the website having a dark background and lighter text.

Sure, it's a gamble if you want to take them.

My comment is more about not getting lulled into a false sense of security about things that do not have long term studies on their effects.

Especially things that aren't in the form we evolved to consume them in, and for which we don't understand their full mechanism of action in the body, such as racetams.