They are in Texas.

Condoms are available for anyone at any age in Texas.

A school paper from the WSU extension program. Super serious guys. Everybody checkout this school paper!

CO2 isn't a fucking concern in commercial or residential settings you fucking moron

Yeah, if you have 5 of your best friends (or strangers) sealed in a closet for several hours, co2 concentration is a serious concern.

Surely you are not serious

All we know for sure is there's a hole.

We should definitely upend the global economy because these scientists say so. Look how close they were.

You mean the gallons of fluid spewing from the ship wasn't a strong indicator of a leak?

You mean the original name from the British who invented the game as we know it today? Are you saying hearing a name gives meaningful context that would help me understand the information in this graph? Do you know more than 20 percent of the names represented?

Does that give me any meaningful context? While I'm sure some of these guys are big names in popular soccer leagues, I doubt anyone is familiar with every soccer league globally and can put most of these names into a meaningful context.

This would be meaningful if I knew who any of these people are

It's a Lego machine that can build a Lego machine. Wake me up when there are nanobots that can synthesize proteins to create more nanobots.

Technically renewable energy.

There are more people in public.

I'm saying when you artificially favor one race over another in an otherwise race neutral algorithm to give your desired results it's a bad thing. You believe race should factor into everything. And you have the temerity to claim the moral high ground. Racism is bad and you ought to be ashamed of your views.

So you are saying they can't be race neutral and you can't define when it's racist. Who gets to decide where to draw these arbitrary lines? How would they work with optimized systems? What is fair enough?

How about this? We remove race from the equation entirely. Surely that would lead to the best outcome no?

How far from proportional would be okay and after that it's racist?

I know. Thats what we are discussing. You take the view if an algorithm returns results that are not directly proportional to racial demographics the system is racist. I'm saying that is ridiculous.

What doesn't convey meaning is:

If companies ever backchecked their algos for mistakes or systematic bias, I might not be against it.

I don't know what that sentence means

Have you considered the opposite case? Using the real estate example. You have x number of variables including salary, school district, visiting real estate websites, and so on. Each on of those variables is given a weight by the system. We don't know what those weights are, the systems operates in a "black box" to determine the appropriate values. You look at the results and decide native Americans are under represented. now you have to add native American as a variable and in order to get the results you want you have to decide how much that should impact the final results. So who decides to favor native Americans by how much? Would that not be illegal under the fair housing act?

Politicians are optimizing for political affiliation and use race as a proxy for that. I am saying that is the exact opposite of what ought to be allowed.

The thing is the model isn't racist. I am explicitly saying including race in these systems should be prohibited.

The only way the algorithm would exclusively advertise to whites would be if that was an explicit direction given to the system. If you program the model to sell advertise at the highest price point and the ads were sent to high income earners in the school district who have searched for realtors and any other numbers of relevant variables then the results were mostly whites I'd have absolutely no problem with it.