Saltpork545

Saltpork545 t1_iujkg0s wrote

It does infringe in the 2nd but not in the way that's been said.

Since marijuana isn't legal federally, the ATF's rulings on it include marijuana as a controlled substance still, since it, ya know, still is.

That's true for literally every state with recreational or medical marijuana.

The good thing is that if there's no ID system required for purchasing marijuana, then no one can know provided you don't use traceable info like a credit card.

Technically, you cannot buy or smoke marijuana, medical or otherwise, and own firearms. Reality isn't that cut and dried and until marijuana gets rescheduled, this is the way the ATF is mandated to treat it.

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Saltpork545 t1_iujg8o1 wrote

I am. Not because 'fuck this place'. I've just lived in Missouri my whole life and Springfield for 17 years and want to live in a couple of other places before I figure out where I settle down, which very well might be back in this state.

I've travelled to or been to the entire CONUS, but I haven't lived elsewhere. Think of it as my mid-life crisis. I want to find some land and a place I can grow food, raise some animals, have a gun range, and still work in tech. Will probably end up using Starlink.

My first stop is either N Carolina or W Virginia. I haven't decided yet.

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Saltpork545 t1_its4qzf wrote

Reply to comment by ErisEpicene in Moving to Springfield by Bornbhthegods

This is fair and I can't argue that. As someone who has adjusted over a decade ago, I completely get the annoyance of 'small town' or 'out of town' drivers.

They don't keep up with the flow of traffic, they don't know where they're going and Bass Pro area is rife with drivers like this at certain times of year.

I get it, tourism and all of that, but yeah, I know and feel the same. You're on an artery road even if it's just 5 lanes, if the speed limit is 40, you should be running 45 minimum. Running 40(or slower) just slows down traffic.

You're not in your small town of 20k or whatever. The speed limit is not 35mph. Go.

This is why when I'm in a place I'm not familiar with, my primary focus is flow of traffic. If everyone is going X speed, go X speed. I don't care what the sign says. That is a distinctly urban traffic phenomenon and something some visitors here simply do not understand.

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Saltpork545 t1_its3567 wrote

We could also look at more data.

https://www.modot.org/sites/default/files/2020-09/City%20Crash%20Report2016%20-%202018-en-us-SPRINGFIELD.pdf

https://www.modot.org/sites/default/files/2020-08/City%20Crash%20Report2016%20-%202018-en-us-KANSAS%20CITY.pdf

https://www.modot.org/sites/default/files/2020-09/City%20Crash%20Report2016%20-%202018-en-us-ST.%20LOUIS.pdf

https://www.modot.org/sites/default/files/2020-08/City%20Crash%20Report2016%20-%202018-en-us-COLUMBIA.pdf

We are the 3rd largest city in the state. Our fatal accident rate is 1.8% of the fatal crashes that happened in MO for 2016-2018.

KC is #2, their rate is 8.88%.

St Louis is #1, their rate is 6.17%.

Columbia is the next smallest, they're rate is 1.08%.

It seems to me that Springfield is right where they should be. It would be different if we, say, also had 8% of the fatal car crashes. So, just judging by fatal car crashes in Missouri, KC is the most dangerous place to be.

This is obviously incomplete data and I'm not finding any good summarized reports of car accidents by county or city because I don't think that data is tracked unless someone is injured, but I could be wrong.

I'm a millennial and 'I've had it worse' isn't what I'm saying at all. I'm saying Springfield isn't exceptional on traffic and never has been. People just get this mindset of 'oh these terrible drivers here are the worst anywhere' and everywhere thinks that about where they live and it's simply false. It's a cognitive bias.

I've seen my share of bad drivers here too. Of course. They exist everywhere. That is my point and always has been my point. We are not any different than Charlottesville or Memphis or Des Moines or whatever other place you can think of. Giving OP some idea that traffic or drivers are magically worse here than where they're coming from is simply false.

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Saltpork545 t1_its01tp wrote

> Most people I know of, have spoken to, or have read about posting on this subreddit have all essentially agreed we have some of the worst drivers in the US

As someone who has spent a lot of time in different states, no, we don't. That's my experience and the experience of most of the people I know in the area long term.

Everyone thinks they have the worst drivers. Everyone. From Atlanta to Portland Maine to small town Idaho.

It's selection bias almost exclusively. You see the bad drivers where you live and work and drive the most. You don't see the bad drivers day in and day out in towns you drive through or visit.

Data reveals something that doesn't match your description.

Missouri isn't even in the top 10 for fatal accidents or accident insurance costs, even adjusted per capita.

https://www.injuryclaimcoach.com/car-accidents-by-state.html

It is not magically worse here than anywhere else in the US. We do not have more bad drivers in our population than other states. None of this is exclusive to Springfield. Literally none of it and saying otherwise is silly. Yes, I minimize because you're not persecuted for living in a small city with small city drivers and traffic.

We do not have exceptionally anything drivers. We just have drivers.

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Saltpork545 t1_itrpk3x wrote

> But thats my point, you shouldnt have to be so overly defensive because of how dangerous the driver are here.

And my point is that drivers are like that everywhere.

> drivers are dangerous, neglectful, and stupid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb7O1RSpYl8

This is one youtube channel that features people doing dumb stuff with cars. There's a new video every day. This is just one of these channels. You can find literally thousands of hours of bad drivers with little to no effort.

I promise you most if not all of these drivers have never lived in Springfield.

That's my point and why I called out the post. Springfieldians have this idea that they're the only place in the world to have bad drivers. They are not and they're not exceptionally bad. They're average.

Again, I am not magically lucky, neither is my brother in law who was a mobile x ray tech for a decade and drove all over SW MO or my sister who all live in Springfield. Between us we've had 2 actual accidents in 15 years that weren't a little bump in a right hand lane or something equally as minor. BIL had someone leave their turning lane and enter into his while in his mobile xray van about 3-4 years ago. They were on their phone. Shocking.

No, people don't drive correctly in bad weather. Rain, snow, ice, whatever. Slow down, take more time to start and stop. Again, not a Springfield thing.

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Saltpork545 t1_itquvaj wrote

> Five accidents in five years here. Literally none were my fault because i was following the rules of the road. Almost daily I have a near miss on my drive to or from work, I have had people try to run me off the road because im not going fast enough while im already doing 20 over the limit and I dont camp the left lane.

I'm not trying to dismiss your experience but if you got into 5 accidents in 5 years, you might not have adjusted your driving to the drivers around you.

I moved to Springfield from a small town. I grew into going a good 15-20mph faster on the same sized roads because of flow of traffic my first few years here.

The roads here aren't mega 9 lane behemoths like the I5 can be in spots. If someone is behaving erratically in the lane next to you, pay attention to it. Be more defensive.

I've driven around Springfield a lot and had 1 accident since 2005 and that was a head on caused by someone losing control in snow. I don't know if you just have bad luck or are just not adjusted to Missouri drivers, but one accident per year might be a you problem.

I've driven from the north side to downtown for work for 5-6 years and after that drove from the north and south side from either Kearney to 65 or Republic to James River to 65 and have never had even a 10th of the issues you claim to have, even in morning or evening rush. Yes, some drivers are distracted or texting or assholes. Yes, you need to pay attention to what the people around you are doing. Yes, there are idiots. There are idiots everywhere. Go look up road rage or driving karma videos on Youtube. There's thousands of them because there are idiot drivers everywhere there are drivers. This is not a unique phenomenon to Springfield MO. None of it.

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Saltpork545 t1_itqu5bh wrote

Reply to comment by Zarrotox in Moving to Springfield by Bornbhthegods

Yeah, I haven't been in Columbia in like a decade until this year and I realized just how spoiled I got from Springfield's basic grid.

Their city planning over decades has created a really kinda bad road layout.

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Saltpork545 t1_itq5vxk wrote

> Drive like everyone will hit you. Why? Because they will. Red lights have little meaning down here.

No, no they will not. If you have ever driven in LA, Chicago, Atlanta, Houston, the driving here is tame and people are amenable mostly.

People will run yellow lights but that's true basically anywhere.

I've lived here 17 years now and Springfieldians have this weird complex that they have the worst drivers in the world. You don't. Not by a huge margin. Springfield drivers are basic small city drivers. Some are dicks, most aren't. The biggest issue with traffic is almost always either college students because young people drive more erratically or people just being assholes.

Shit, drive around Columbia for a day. Springfield is a basic grid. Columbia isn't.

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Saltpork545 t1_isq0ekc wrote

I moved here in 2005. It's a bigger issue than it was when I moved here 17 years ago.

You will always have the meth heads and weed dealers. Organized crime is a little different. Seeing MS13 tags or Hells Angels/Galloping Goose or the Joplin Honkies doing stuff in Springfield is more common and yeah, a lot of it is coming from KC.

As Springfield grows, this issue will grow with it. Just like the cat convertor theft ring of the last 2 years. That's my point.

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Saltpork545 t1_isll2df wrote

It's not really even the crackheads. They would sell guns to buy more drugs.

It's the dealers and the groups that control drugs. Us being on I44 means that we are an easy drop off drug market between bigger areas.

Like it or not, Springfield is a small city and it's starting to have the problems that cities, even small ones, start to have. Theft rings, drug trade, etc.

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Saltpork545 t1_irqdb9m wrote

Look for partially cooked frozen turkey breast. It will be in the freezer section. You pop in the oven for the time it says and you have a fully cooked turkey breast.

I don't know that you will find a place offering fully done turkey dinner at this time of year.

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