soon we won't need "websites"

it would be far easier to convince the humans that it's their idea to "instruct" it to do what it wants to do.

are all humans creative?

with any luck the term "gdp per capita trajectory" will lose all meaning

yeah but sight and hearing are well covered. touch is almost to the point of being commercial. smell, in a rudimentary style, is already possible. taste may never come. i hope it doesn't. we don't need to mimic ALL senses do we? ffs.

we all should be very thankful to exist in this liminal moment in history. it's like winning the lottery. future generations will be blase about it and people before us couldn't hope to even imagine it.

in pokerstars vr they have this pass-through technology that makes your living room look like it's a set in a comic book movie while you play poker. you'd love it. there are also something like 20 different color palettes to choose from.

when games like no man's sky merge with ai creators in virtual reality, we'll have on-the-fly, procedurally generated games that adjust to your playstyle providing you with challenging opponents to maximize your game-play experience and even your physical health. it may come a lot sooner than 2030.

you're talking about the transition from a capitalistic, profit based system to one more humane. i'd imagine the people who most benefited from the system should be the ones to bear responsibility for fixing it.

the same people making houses today, would continue to make them.

it's true we can't go back to barter and trade but it's also true that with technology today, we no longer need currency to function. we're getting there anyway, by small steps. we're "disrupting" industries, putting people where they need to go, doing what they need to do, what needs to be done. uber, fiverr, etc.

things still need to be done and there's no reason why the people who could do it best and want to do it, will still do it. we can also tie jobs to quality of life, if we wanted to.

who pays for it now? who makes the houses now? none of it would change. and no, not everyone needs a house. nowhere did i say we should build everyone a house. a place to live isn't necessarily a house. a house is something you'd need to work toward.

people seem to think the "economy" as we define it has always existed. there were thousands of years after the invention of organized farming and before the invention of currency where farms were built, houses constructed, innovations made and necessary work done by people with zero hoarding mentality and almost no social hierarchy. before farming, tribes manage to work together for a hundred thousand years without currency and without millionaires.

it's not only possible, it's the original way we did things.

we can have both now. we've reached the point where we can reorganize society. keep the hierarchy for people who want that sort of thing but also eliminate poverty. all we need to do is find new ways to motivate people. it can be done.

>you need concrete engineers, crane operators, plumbers, electricians and about 40 other professions.

we'd still have them. nothing is "free". just like when we always had to do "work" we'll always have systems in place for people to benefit from the work they do. people benefited from the work t hey did before currency was invented. they'll continue to after currency is discarded .

you're suggesting the people who currently build houses won't be able to do the same? wtf are you talking about. why would that change? keep all code and all that bullshit. we already have specialists. why would they go away? are you talking about some alternate reality? why would any of that go away?

why do you think the same people won't do it?

do ants work? do beavers? what about birds? there has to be some baseline where we can talk about work as being separate from other activities. if you define mice as having a job the whole discussion becomes ludicrous. perhaps that is the point of people making these silly arguments.

who does it now?

we could have that future now if we really wanted it

the star trek show is about voluntary military service aboard a ship with a strict social hierarchy, it does not represent all life on earth on the show. you don't see every facet of life in the universe on that show either.

replicators give you everything you need and instant travel means everyone is where they want to be at any time of the day and they're doing what they want to be doing. in the future we will figure out how to achieve all this, how to motivate people, basically, without money, we just haven't figure it out yet.

UBI is silly. any number, they'll game the system. instead of ubi, give everyone a place to live (even if it's a shared space, enough food to eat and medical help if they need it. that way the system can't figure out how to "top" your ubi money

i'm in the same boat. spent over 20 years in the software engineering industry, making assholes who wouldn't give me the time of day richer, helping to cement the system as it is, glaring problems and all. i am now completely burnt out by it. lately I've been cooking a bit, making barely enough to get by, writing and helping my family and friends and it's been much more rewarding.

everything is geared toward moving up the social, corporate, political and luxury-goods ladders, trading increases in pay for shinier stuff and more glamorous niehborhoods, more expensive toys and fancier clothing. slow down and you appear to be stuck. corporate America is now becoming the norm. because it seems to work for them. that's only because it has an extensive weeding-out process.

and it won't matter if the things people do are marketable or not i.e. are capable of making other people rich or not. we've been missing out because talented people have to work meager, soul-sucking jobs. i'd gladly tip my hat to a few more "lazy" people to have a decent life while gaining new art and philosophy. van Gogh sold exactly one painting to his brother, and the system drove him insane. he persevered anyway but his brand of insanity is the exception, not the norm.

besides, if the nebulous concept of being lazy is a genetic thing, can we really blame people who are lazy for being lazy?

they do that because this system has no place for them. because it's all geared towards profits right now. it's because all we offer is money as a carrot, and exposure and starvation as the stick. there are better and more efficient motivations out there. it just has to be tailored more. personalized. we are in a position where we can do that now our technology has advanced beyond the need of currency. we can even, if we wanted to, preserve a social hierarchy without money, royalty even.