This is so fucking stupid.

> More I understand how Neural Networks work, more similarities I see.

Dunning Kruger effect.

>I'm quite sure at this point that you understand what I mean even if my examples weren't that great.

You don't even know what you mean. You gave examples, but you weren't able to describe what you mean. Unless, you really do mean "the consumer market determines that it likes AI music and movies" which as I mentioned, is an artificial representation anyway.

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>In your initial post you asserted that AIs will never surpass humans in what you called "subjectively meaningful tasks", citing their lack of i) will, ii) life and iii) ability to sense the world around them, as arguments.I gave my argument for why I believe they may,

Well you're objectively wrong. They dont.

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>which is that I think our brains can be perfectly modeled as computing machines.

Don't hold your breath, it might be decades.

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> I replied in the hope of hearing more about your thoughts and arguments for your position.

I don't do pseudointellectualistic debates. Facts are facts. Dont like it, tough.

>Seeing how you fail to give any arguments to support your point and instead have resorted to ad hominem and trying to funny, it's pretty clear you don't have any.

See above, I am not here to argue. Just tell you to stop being pseudointellectual. Not insulting you here, you sound to me like a ego-head teenager or delusional young adult. You haven't even begun to ascend the slope of enlightenment yet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

>On IMDB, all of the highest ranked movies will have been made by AIs, the only human-made movies that rank high are the ones that everybody knows the director used AI-input to create anyway.

Ah yes, IMDB, the place where botfarms literally offer the service of 100 reviews for $5 can be trusted.

>On Spotify, the songs with the most listens will all have been composed by AI, none of the songs made by humans garner nearly as many plays.

Lmao really? "The most popular music" is all the same song anyway. Modern music could all be written by AI and it wouldnt change anything. It doesn't mean AI "surpassed" humans, as AI isn't even needed to to do this. It can be done with a SEED:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuGt-ZG39cU

>The Nobel prizes continue to be awarded to humans, but everyone knows that the winners were helped by an AI that did the heavy lifting.

"AI did the heavy lifting" is like saying "the library did the heavy lifting" or "the college did the heavy lifting"

>Also, everyone knows that there were more important developments in the field in the last year but was not recognized with a prize because it was strictly AI, there was no human involved to give the prize to.

Source: Trust me.

>A woman going on a date is at first disappointed and saddened when she realizes that the dude she is having dinner with seems to just want to get out of there and return home to his sex-bot. But on second thought she is relieved. She realizes that she'd like nothing more than to get back home to her own bot as well. Not only has her bot never failed to please her sexually, the conversation with the bot is 10x more interesting than talking to this dude and the bot knows what emotional buttons to push too.

Source: /r/IncelThoughts

>By the metric of human perception and grading.

Too vague. What do you mean by this?

>With a feedback loop of video being able to 'describe' to the LLM what is happening, and the LLM adjusting to meet its task, you could have a very useful android

Thats GAN/GameAI territory and is already out there. The algorithm is given an outcome like "win this match" or "pour water into this cup" and works out how to do so on it's own. It's how a lot of self-driving models work, and how OpenAI helped deliver AI that is indistinguishable from real players to Dota2 (they even rage if they cant follow their normal routine.)

What I foresee ultimately is tools we already used super-enhanced by AI. For example, a Wolfram-GPT macro for VisualStudio that generates the menial part of code; leaving the coder to figure-out harder logic themselves which the macro can then pick up on and offer complete code for.

Or, let's say someone is writing a story, but doesn't want to write out a full conversation between two characters, or perhaps they need help crafting a lore without also having to write a prequel.

While I know art AI's make beautiful renderings, to me, their potential is squandered on the lazy. Getting more into this, AI art could be so much more if used as a tool. It could do amazing things like generating real-world textures allowing every tree in a game to be unique. But as it stands people seem so much more interested in letting AI do the work for them, instead of letting AI enhance the work they already have done.

I know this sub has a hard one for letting AI do all this shit on it's own as if it's alive, but to me, that really stifles these tools. As it stands right now, AI is a viral app fad that will fade into the background to deliver nothing but ads and more disturbing YouTube Kids content. I know how badly people want self-aware machines, and mistake these tools for something living. Everyone arguing about letting AI have no limits is missing the point of what the creators of these tools want from them.

>We don't need a superhuman thinking machine to do 99% of the tasks people want to automate. What we need is a slice of a 70IQ factory worker's brain that can do that one thing over and over again.

We need a better smarter search engine then? Something that can intelligently ingest and present information.

>But I really do believe we are less than 10 years away until AI outperforms humans also in the "subjective tasks".

By what metric?

Just what do you mean by more capable? Computers already kick our ass at math and a bunch of other tasks.

Do you mean in subjective tasks? Regardless of what many around here think, AI is not going to "surpass humans" in subjectively meaningful tasks. The value and beauty of art is in the eyes of the beholder. Ultimately, until our machines exhibit a will and life of their own, and the ability to sense the world about them what they create is meaningless. While AI models art can render a scene as well as anyone, it can't convey feelings. Likewise, AI that writes music sounds impressive, but truthfully it sticks to corporate music formulas, just as ChatGPT doesn't understand the topics it writes about, it just "knows" what to say next.

So, what you're really asking is "Can humanity find purpose without their 9-5 desk job" and the answer is yes. I'll go build a battlebot or buy a racecar or something.

"Make my robot *ist, make it mean, and make it break laws on my behalf"

>anyone upvoting this thread

>Plan for it happening, instead of fruitlessly trying to fight against the inevitable

UghLook, I am not worried about the future of AI driven ads and Disney+ content Ill never watch. I look forward to enhanced google searches, and the various graphic tools being developed by NVIDIA.

However, I can scant see the benefit to everyday people visible AI technology will provide. Aside from enhanced ad delivery? Wow

> Even if we somehow outlaw it in the western world, the Chinese will just keep on trucking.

China has done far more to regulate AI than the US already.

Almost like those leftist spaces are realistically informed on this technology. They know damn well that GPT and Diffusion just means elimination of skilled labor.

This is not the loom, they are not luddites. The loom let us hire and create more weavers. This technology however, eliminates labor.

Like I said, get a refund on that education.

>admits to having a small pp

>because of the fact that aging-millennials are a major foundation of the American progressive movement

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>I'm 25

Bro, you missed the cut off by like two years; you dont get to call millennials "aging" when you are getting your first grey hairs yourself.

What are you gonna do in four years when you are "aging" lmao.

It's not her fault your penis is too small to be felt.

Get a refund.

>backlash against emerging technology in favor of antiquated social systems will increasingly become more of a liberal phenomenon.

Stay in school, kid.

>Homework is a liberal plot

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>- PhilosophusFuturum 2023

It's not. Very chemically similar to meth, but the effects of meth are different.

This list doesn't include creatine , DMAA, or Adderall lol. ChatGPT slippin

Lmao

This current viral trend is the future! It wont be forgotten in a few months like previous viral trend!

It also stands to reason someone with ways and means to build a AI-vTuber is also capable of setting up bot-viewers no?

This is fucking dumb.

Bottom tier chat bot given a vTuber avatar and a voice processor. Like the ghosts in my house asking my Google Home questions. It literally got stuck in a loop about Birds Arent Real.