Thank you for the Columbia tip! Their warranty and CS is amazing. They actually credited me over 3x what I paid for my raincoat originally. Xmas coming early for me this year. Cheers!!

GoBro's Black Friday deals are on, 25% off DT's yo!!

Not smarts much huh.
You deserve the life you have.
Good luck with that. You absolutely need it.

You have no critical thinking. You blaming everyone but yourself.
You deserve exactly what you're getting and have gotten.

You telling us all that we are wrong is kind of batshit. Wake the fuck up.

I'm not blaming it solely on crock pots. Like I stated in my very first response to your crazy ass replies, it all adds up. It's a combination of poor choices; lead in water pipes, paint, crockpots; teflon cookware, living near petrolium plant; it all adds up Soixzie.

Grow up. Wake up. Take some responsibility and open your eyes.

LOL. Keep telling yourself that. Blame it on your family and take no responsibility for the range of poor choices you've made in your life.

Not speculation Souixze. It's a fact there's lead in those old crockpots.
It's a fact that lead poisoning is a factor in thyroid cancer.
Denial only gets you what you've got/had. Good luck.

Yep. I don't touch teflon, also cancerous.

You're the one in denial who is actively poisoning your body. Go ahead. Keep it up.

edit:
>If these things have been recklessly poisoning families for 50 years, why isnt everyone walking around with cancer? Maybe it's because my cancer had nothing to do with a crockpot and everything to do with the american healthcare systems failings and bad genetics.

LOL. Look at all the cases of cancers in the last 50 years. It has everything to do with families poisoning their systems whether with lead, teflon, mercury, etc. It's a combination of poor choices and denialism.

I only expressed the correlation. I don’t need to prove anything to you or her. Bugger off lil ronin

I never claimed that they’re the “leading” cause, I responded to Souizxe who made claims that there’s no relation or history of cause yet she ended up with thyroid cancer. You prove there is not.

>What Types of Toxins Affect the Thyroid? >Types of environmental toxins affecting the thyroid gland are:

>Heavy metals: Aluminum, cadmium, lead, and mercury

https://coem.com/blog/which-chemicals-cause-thyroid-problems/

Yeah it's heartbreaking honestly.

Okay then. However it's a fact that there's lead in many of these AND buying a test is super cheap comparative to recklessly poisoning ones family.

You do you Siouxze.

edit: just looked through your post history and saw this, which absolutely could be related to lead poisoning:

>Having my thyroid removed, which had been overtaken by a massive cancerous tumor, was an elective surgery. Diagnosed 1/17, scheduled for removal almost a month later. It was a SUPER FUN month.

Please know that I post this not to be a dick or snarky. Life is crazy and things add up and I am so sorry you've gone through this, whether related or not.
Be well.

Yes. OP should buy a test kit to make sure it's safe.

Like I said I've only used ebay to invest in my Filson's to save money and have paid no more than $80 per pair.

Also look at the "Repair" section. Their products can be repaired by them to increase the lifespan.

To me it is worth it.
I'll be honest, if it's work pants meant to get dirty and worn I'd go with Carthart. Since I no longer do much manual labor (except around the property, where I use my old Cartharts) it's more for durable daily wear with style and the side pocket for my phone to keep front pockets clear. So I use both Filson's (style & daily wear) and Carthart's (dirty work).

To each their own.
Good hunting!

>and people still buy stuff from top end brands, so that can't be the reason.

Not sure what you're suggesting. Buying a high end bifl product in a country not covered under warranty still makes sense knowing that the company produces high quality stuff.

Provide an example please.

BTW blaming consumers/customers for the brand backpedaling their warranty is exactly the narrative they prefer as opposed to cutting costs to further profiting their enterprise.

30 year old sweater has had a long life, and it's still a Patagonia and it's still under warranty and this is precisely why I made the initial investment to begin with.

Filson will repair or replace if you "rip" your pants.
These days Cartharts last no longer than 5 years until they start to tatter.
And you get 2-3 pairs per comparable Filson, not 4-7. I have 3 pairs of Filson's, one used and two brand new. I have not paid more than $80 for any of them. Knowing that Filson will repair/replace it's a waste of money to buy something less that's basically disposable.

I've been wanting to check them out and will do for sure, heard lot's of great things about Fjallraven.

Khul's are nicley styled yet fall apart (especially the crotches) fairly quick comparative to similar brands. And they have no warranty.

I was on a Kuhl kick for a few years but did not last as the pants did not last.
I went from throwaway Kuhl's to forever Filson's.

Correct on the mailed back part.

I haven't tried Thoro's and will keep in mind when/if I need more shoes/boots.

Everything on the list is firsthand experience.

Once I discovered Redwings I stuck with them (have 3 pairs).
I'm also a big fan of Fluevog's for shoes, more so for style than durability.

Good hunting!

Seriously this is the list.

And DT socks are absolutely amazing and crucial, been using them for last 6 years solid. I haven't had stinky feet since then btw, only socks I wear. Just today I sent in 6 pair for warranty because the ankles are a bit loose for my liking. The warranty is bar none, almost a sock club where they credit the value of the socks (even if you bought used or on sale) and you get to replace with whatever you want. Check GoBros to see if they're still on sale and definitely check around black Friday.

Good hunting!

I just bought a used Patagonia raincoat on ebay to replace an old Columbia. After seeing so many great responses and posts about Patagonia it was a no brainer.

Cheers!

You're welcome. I think the extra cost is worth it for the quality and supporting a US, PNW company. Plus the style and fit are great.

Due to the extra cost I keep an eye out on ebay for my sizes for the more expensive stuff.