Even if you use existing underground utility trenches like where the plumbing and water lines are running, it is still expensive. They have to be sealed from moisture and insulated. The lines put out heat which has to be dealt with more aggressively underground. The seals complicate any repair and require more expensive components and I believe they may not last as long underground, but not sure of that. I read up on it and that was some of the takeaway. Various articles said it was five to 10 times more expensive

Is it? Maybe I have it wrong - I don’t know, that’s why I posted.

There is too little housing of every type - there is no arguing there, single families, 2-3 families, apartment complexes. There isn’t a category in the state that isn’t far short of demand.

Why is this comment being downvoted? Is it a sin to confess it’s hard to pay the rent?

It’s a big experiment. We’ll see how it works out, whether it kills development in those neighborhoods. I hope not but in any case, we’ll learn from it.

Others say this is a Yale driven project that the community worked over good and held back until it could get some concessions. I knew that much and this article is the first I’ve read about it since that was ongoing and an update for me. I see the definition of low income has improved for affordable units to 50-percent of median. That’s better than it was

I agree, I just don’t see why a nonprofit is acting like private equity, Ok? If that’s not clear.

Down voted because? Lol

Nonprofit actually is nonprofit, but what you mean is it needs to maintain adequate operating funds to sustain its projects and itself. If I’m not mistaken ConnCAT has a for profit arm, which some nonprofits have. Not certain of that though.

Another way to mitigate segregating the poor is to dedicate half the units to lower income artists and/ or entrepreneurs, rather than market rate. It has the same outcome - it expands the cultural gravity and vibrancy of a neighborhood as well as, no, better than monied renters. This is a well known affect of the arts in neighborhoods.

Just an idea I am putting out there for consideration.

True.

There are a couple people on the sub invoking some monolithic “Black community” solidly behind this but when it was first proposed there was a great deal of conflict and activism attempting to modify as best they could what are perceived to be the negative impacts not only of this project but the overlay zone. ConnCAT has a very deep relationship with Yale, and the Black community, so, it’s not one or the other for them. Yale has plans for that area. They work closely with Yale.

Catching up on the progress I noticed this article and read up.

I’m very familiar with the position of more new units, market rate or otherwise, are a positive. I don’t think it’s enough to solve New Haven’s affordability problem. Unfortunately I worry it will barely do more than maintain the status quo.

Edit: Isn’t ConnCAT a nonprofit with a for profit arm? There are nonprofit housing developers in new haven that have built 100-percent sliding scale buildings charging 30-percent of income. Arlow, for example.

Someone wants to fancify that block of Dixwell, attracting high incomes. Arlowin Westville fancified by ensuring that the renaissance went to everyone without excluding low income

I mean, after tax is an even higher percentage, obviously. It’s unsustainable. I posted the median income for New Haven- you can do the math. It’s dire. When a 1 br is almost 100- percent of gross median income, lol

After tax? Maybe say what you are thinking about. New haven is expensive and income is low comparatively, so, it’s a really tough situation. Plus it became expensive really quickly, which makes for sticker shock for residents. The vast majority of new haven residents are renters

Why is this being downvoted?

Around $2000

Edit: Another source says it is $1500

The median income is $24 k / $44k household in new haven. And over 20-percent poverty rate. Those numbers are about five years old, pay is probably higher now but not tons

Edit: more recent numbers. As of 2021, $29 k individual, $48k household, median incomes for New Haven per US Census

(And this comment downvoted too. Lol. Don’t talk, I get it. I’m not supposed to talk about this)

Yeah, that’s the prevailing wisdom, but they could provide more and didn’t .

New haven has added something like a thousand units of market rate housing in the last three years and prices have not come down. So much for granola theories

I agree on Seabury

The agent only lists his initials because they are ashamed.

Gitmor? Like Get more? Lol

Connecticut DV shelters don’t look at immigration status

I don’t know what is going on there. I know it can get tight but didn’t know they were turning people away

Is the shared custody arrangement court ordered? If not, it may not be kidnapping. But call the Boston resource someone mentioned for relocation assistance. You may be able to stay in the UK if you are homeless, have no job, would be living in your car in the winter with a child. I don't know, but you should find out and I am a little surprised you don't seem interested to do that. Living with a kid in a car in winter is not some kind of a joke.

Here, call these people to check if there is a custody issue if you stay in the UK. They will know, because of the kind of work they do, this question has to come up a lot - shared custody issues

Greater Boston Legal Services’ Relocation Project

You're putting a lot of energy into how to make the car work as shelter instead of milking every resource hard for getting actual shelter. That's suspect as all get out, especially for someone with a young child. Are you real? Seriously

You know, I don't get that. Where you lived in Massachusetts there were no shelter beds for DV when you left your husband? It can happen but geez, does that happen very often? I don't hear of DV shelters turning victims away very often

No kidding. Enough with the boyfriend