leavingthecold

leavingthecold t1_j55b46l wrote

The Asian population excluding college students is less than %5 in Providence and probably declining. At one time there use to be a Chinatown in downtown Providence which consisted of a couple streets.

Enclave areas of Providence such as Smith Hill , West End, even South Side used to house many Southeast Asian refugees from Laos and Cambodia that came late 70's early 80's. Majority have either moved to other neighborhoods/ cities or just moved out of state. You can see some business still in existence along with a Southeast Asian cultural center on Elmwood Ave. There are existing Theravada Buddhist centers still in Providence that cater to the Cambodian community, I know there are maybe 2. Also another one in Cranston, a Laotian catered temple in North Smithfield and Woonsocket.

As far as bars/clubs that Asian people go to well there are none that focus specifically on Asians, most go to whatever bar/club of their choice

FYI this city has never had a person of any Asian descent run for mayor, never had an Asian descent person on city council albeit 1 girl ran last year. There hasn't been much migration since the last wave from the 70's/80's. You might see a lot of Indian people now but not enough where they have an enclave area.

Usually Asians (East/South/Southeast) are left out of most social things due to the numbers.

Surprisingly if you go next door in Massachusetts to Worcester, Boston, Lowell they actually have some large size communities of Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodian . On top of smaller Asian communities.

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leavingthecold t1_j50z10b wrote

Of course everything is racist ok, you got some not all suburban riff raff then you get some people who lived in shitty areas of Providence all their lives that just happen to make it to the nearby burbs and bring their shitty practices which leads to the people you see at Crossroads.

Diversity if you seen more East Asian students in Providence classrooms a'lot of people would be crying. Oh no my Lee is out performing everyone is academics even the teacher how will my kids compete. Don't you read the news even Harvard and other higher institutions of learning can do legally do this. Check ex mayor from NYC Bill DeBlasio and specialized high schools and what he tried to do all for "diversity"

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leavingthecold t1_j4ymi09 wrote

I'm guessing you never went to school in Providence or with a heavy student body consisting of people from different countries

The bilingual teachers are there usually for Spanish speakers, tell me how many are bilingual in some Asian, Middle Eastern, African language you know those people exist here as well.

Ironically those that were in ESL class didn't do any better than non native English speakers who happen to be in regular classes. Imagine that.

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leavingthecold t1_j4ylubj wrote

The law on the books probably enforced only when someone cries

Barrington again, any person that doesnt' speak English moving there more than likely will come from money or they would be able to afford to live there. More than likely can hire private tutors. So its not needed law or not.

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leavingthecold t1_j4y4myg wrote

Is this something you saw yourself within the past 30-40 years? I can tell you a bunch of elementary schools in Providence that didn't offer ESL for whatever reason but had a high amount of non English non European language speakers. I didnt see it until middle school and high school. You know what the funny thing was , kids thrown in the mix at an early age didn't need it unless they were playing stupid and being lazy, the only ones that needed it were recent arrivals that came in teenage years.

Lets not throw Barrington in the mix, the property values and taxes wouldn't let that happen.

I'm very well versed in multilingual students, as i went to school with more than a handful. But you know ESL here is focused on Spanish speaking students, there are people from Africa, Asia,etc here that have different languages and writing systems that veer way far from who the curriculum is focused on.

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leavingthecold t1_j4y2tif wrote

Same with Irish, Italian, and other newer European groups but its really not spoken on since the numbers of recent ones still are smaller than whats coming from south of the border. The media will shift to that narrative instead of telling it like it is based on location.

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leavingthecold t1_j4y2kj3 wrote

Never said it was a bad thing if you read, the part that is bad is when all the ESL resources is for 1 group, not taking into consideration those that don't come from European language speaking countries.

ESL is not new unless you are really young. I get it has to do with demographic but also in doing so it excludes the people with lower number demographics.

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leavingthecold t1_j4x5wz2 wrote

I wasn't here in the 80's but based on US history time line immigration laws were relaxed to an extent. But from my readings mid 70's early 80's Providence saw many people come here in as economic migrants, war refugees, from West Africa, Central America, Southeast Asia, Caribbean, etc.

Now you barely see new migration from West Africa, or Southeast Asia or even Southern Europe. Immigration lack of enforcement or turning the blind eye is what you see currently for Providence's demographic. I'm sure earlier groups ( Italians, Irish, Portuguese ) benefitted from blind eye policies prior as well back when most didn't even have a birth certificate or social security card.

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leavingthecold t1_j4x4a70 wrote

In theory no but when it's allocated for 1 group only then yes. Look at Providence school demographics from the 80's 90's compared to now. Tell me you don't see a major difference.

I can't speak for everyone but I don't recall ESL being offered in my elementary school despite having a good percentage of non English speakers.

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leavingthecold t1_j4x3kgk wrote

I have friends that went to school in Johnston during the 90's and was shocked to find out they actually had ESL (English As A Second Language). Not sure who it was geared to possibly new Italian immigrants at one point.

I think Johnston may have a little more non white students compared to the 90's but I doubt its like night and day there now. Still you can see some riff raff seeping in there along with some tenured shitheads.

I guess we are actually fortunate Providence isn't as " diverse " as it should be at least from a numerical standpoint. Imagine more East Asian kids ( mainly Chinese, Korean ) come here and kids actually had to compete with them in academics. Shit show waiting to happen like in NYC with the ex mayor DiBlasio and supporters trying to suppress their merit.

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leavingthecold t1_j4wwn6z wrote

I have a friend who went through some shit like this. Purchased a house in Cranston but right on the Prov/Cranston line towards Washington Park.

Now don't quote me verbatim and only going from memory of the story he told me. He registered his kid to go to school in Cranston, since that's where he lived duh but they said the kid had to go to school in Providence huh and there were no more spots in Cranston.

End result was his kid went to school in Providence and he received some property tax refund from the city of Cranston. Not sure how long this went on but they eventually sold the house and moved to North Providence.

Providence schools with the exception of some have been shit since the 90's and I only found this out in the late 2010's way after I graduated from school. Truth be told , they are pushing for more Bilingual teachers and dual classes for Spanish says a whole lot right there. Sure didn't see them pushing for Ebonics like in Oakland during the 90's lol. I recall going to school with country bumpkin parents that do not speak a European language at home despite coming from a former European colony couldn't help me with shit at home. No extra language resources. We were just thrown in with regular kids and grasped English just fine minus some. But this is a totally new day and time with many new factors. Not sure what the outcome if I were in the present.

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leavingthecold t1_j4axd84 wrote

You live in Providence for 7 years, I'm gonna say my insight is way more tenured. Its definitely a culture problem when it comes to noise. 6-7 am people blasting loud music from their homes not realizing the shit was built in the late 1800's or people with loud ass speaker with the bass at max capacity. Does that happen in the non multicultural areas of Providence?

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leavingthecold t1_j48gf1k wrote

This is a good write up. I know this area really well and what type of people live here.

For those of you who are interested to move to places like Smith Hill and want to live in a 2 to 3 floor apartment. This is a good write up. I know this area really well and who lives there.

This is the nonsense you will have to deal with just because you want to live in the city. This is the multicultural diversity nonsense you will get. You will be roommates with people who have different cultural norms than you. If you value peace and quiet this aint the place. There are people here who blast music in their house or cars as soon they wake up, not including any other noise from vehicles or makeshift car garages.

Smith Hill went into white flight right around the 80's as they started to bring in refugees from Laos and Cambodia after the Vietnam War, those communities have remained in tact there up 2018-2019 as even a majority of them have moved out , the only ones left either own a home or living in cheap apartments. Now you have a bunch more Hispanics moving in , as you can see the increase in cars on the street and noise , there's also a quasi homeless shelter across the street from 7-11, I never in 30 years have seen Smith Hill like this. You also have ghetto retards from other areas moving in as well.

I remember seeing one triple decker with all Southeast Asians occupying it, it happen to be gang hang out but surprisingly shit didn't hit the fan until the landlord let these really trashy black and white trash people move in. I honestly think the landlord got some kickback from the city to house these low life trash drug addicts from the burbs. A poor working class family just wants peace and quiet but now you have these losers.

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