mangogetter

mangogetter t1_itv5sws wrote

You do not want to stay at an extended stay. This is a city without affordable housing or overnight homeless shelters (except about 50 nights a year), and as such, the low-end hotels and extended stays fill that gap. Look for an airbnb that takes long-term stays or a furnished month-to-month apartment.

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mangogetter t1_is1mq1a wrote

https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2020/12/15/springfield-missouri-declines-lift-ban-tents-unsheltered-homeless/3906285001/

"As a result, we do not allow residential living in tents and under tarps on any private or municipal property throughout the community in an unregulated fashion," City Manager Jason Gage said in the letter. 

This is also enforced against people sleeping in cars. You can fault my sources, but this is absolutely the policy of this city.

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mangogetter t1_irzj2yq wrote

It's just basic physics - you've got very inside air, and unless you're holding it at temperature, the retained heat/cold in the seats/bedding/everything is fighting against you constantly. And to make matters worse, you open a door and lose most of whatever hot/cold air you tried to create. And then of course, it's small, so you're constantly getting cold/heat conducted in through the outside walls/glass, which are never more than a foot or two from you. Compare that to an apartment, where the outside walls are thick and heavy/dense, and you've got other warm/cool airboxes on 2-5 sides of your air-box. Vanlife seems romantic, but unless you're doing it somewhere where living in an actual tent would be tolerable, it isn't.

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mangogetter t1_irzhz20 wrote

Beyond that, Vanlife Instagram tends to center itself around fairly temperate climates, like CA and the PNW. There's a reason for that.

Here in SGF, we have Real Winter and Hot AF Summer. The amount of (expensive) gas you're looking at to maintain safe and comfortable temps in a small, poorly-insulated (at least relative to basically any conventional dwelling) van is very, very high.

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mangogetter t1_irzhs9i wrote

And just to be clear about the scope of the issue: Springfield has an anti-camping ordinance which also extends to sleeping in vehicles. Even on private property. So even if you had a kind friend who said you could park in their driveway, if one of their neighbors complained or a cop happened to notice, you'd be forced to move.

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