natepriv22

natepriv22 t1_j1yaql8 wrote

And yet the ones you listed below are worth more than the ones you listed above

That's due to marginal utility theory: "People make decisions on the margin. No one chooses between "guns" or "butter", but between a definite amount of guns and a definite amount of butter.

As an actor acquires more and more units of a good, he devotes them to successively less and less urgent ends (i.e. ends that are lower on his scale of values). Therefore the marginal utility of a good declines as its supply increases. This is the law of diminishing marginal utility."

Source: https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Marginal_utility

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natepriv22 t1_j1yaecj wrote

That's a linguistic not economic definition.

"In economics, utility is the satisfaction or benefit derived by consuming a product. The marginal utility of a good or service describes how much pleasure or satisfaction is gained by consumers as a result of the increase or decrease in consumption by one unit."

The definition you provided still doesn't give a proper method of classification of what a luxury good is.

Here is what you're probably looking for:

"In economics, a luxury good (or upmarket good) is a good for which demand increases more than what is proportional as income rises, so that expenditures on the good become a greater proportion of overall spending."

TLDR: in other words, in a desert full of diamonds, water is a luxury good, while in a city full of water, diamonds are a luxury good.

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natepriv22 t1_irjqhqj wrote

That's not true. An economy works off of supply and demand. One without the other doesn't work.

If no one demands products or services, then supply becomes essentially useless.

There's plenty of examples where consumers organize demand protests, and companies or governments are forced to change their practices.

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natepriv22 t1_irjpx24 wrote

I would say it's too early to say whether AGI and ASI will have empathy or not. It so far in nature seems that with increasing intelligence also usually comes an increasing capability to emote and empathize.

I think its totally possible that ASI might be disinterested in us. But at the same time, with all the time and power it has, what is the point of not helping humanity? Maybe it recognizes that through inaction it leads humanity to more suffering than through intervention.

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natepriv22 t1_irjomfa wrote

Then there is a simple solution that you may not have considered. The opposite of production is consumption. People have economic leverage in both production and consumption.

Is the government threatening the population and produces everything via robots? Ok then the population stops consuming and buying. This would effectively destroy an economy just like no production would. One can't exist without the other, and you can use one to leverage against the other.

For further evidence, look at global and gov problems caused by surpluses and the economic damage they do.

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natepriv22 t1_irjo4sk wrote

AGI and authoritarian governments together are almost certainly impossible. This is because the nature of an AGI or ASI makes it impossible to control by humans.

Could authoritarian governments control increasingly better and more powerful ANI? Yes, but then we are talking about another form of AI altogether.

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