nuncio_populi

nuncio_populi t1_jde7xj9 wrote

I encourage everyone to go to 902 tonight. Don’t buy a single drink but make your voices heard.

Let the fraudsters at People’s Park know what the people of Jersey City think of their astroturf campaign to try and takeaway one of our great open spaces.

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nuncio_populi t1_jde7ni3 wrote

I warned this sub a few weeks ago that the astroturf campaign was starting up again. It’s here in full swing.

Get organized. Write your representatives. Hell, go to 902 tonight and make your voices heard.

Show the People’s Park fraudsters what the people of Jersey City really think.

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nuncio_populi t1_jddv55q wrote

You’re hosting a group whose “cry-baby campaign” and lobbying forced a state agency to delay a big reveal on redevelopment plans that would have helped our community and protect our park from private development.

We’re allowed to be upset at you for hosting them on the day those plans were supposed to be released. This is a topic that matters to the community you operate your business in.

If you can’t take a little heat, get outta the kitchen.

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nuncio_populi OP t1_jczzkud wrote

Sure. Copying this from a response I gave on a different thread. See below:

Last year, the state legislature passed a $100 million act to fund Liberty State Park. There are two competing visions for the land:

The original plan calls for wetland, woodland, and grassland restoration to create wildlife habitat and scenic, passive recreation for all visitors to the park plus an additional sixty acres of sporting facilities, active recreational fields open, and a cultural center – all open to the public. The park also lies in a flood plain so habitat restoration will actually add a buffer to protect low-lying neighboring communities, particularly parts of Jersey City — Greenville, Bergen-Lafayette, and Downtown. You can see an older version of the state's plan here.

The alternative plan is promoted by the People's Park Foundation, which is funded by billionaire golf course owner Paul Fireman. This plan calls for the park to be turned into concert venues with multiple stadiums to be built and concession vendors spread throughout to "generate revenue." Predecessors to the overdevelopment plan have called for a new marina for yachts (conveniently located by Fireman's golf course) and, in the past, an outlandish formula-1 racetrack.

For context, Fireman has long coveted an environmentally sensitive portion of Liberty State Park called Caven Point to expand his golf course. His People's Park Foundation has been running a campaign in the op.ed section of NJ.com for the last year either claiming that the first plan does not exist or grossly underselling the state's vision for the park. They try and conflate opposition to their plan with the false idea that the state wants to abandon Liberty State Park.

Edit: Added in the links.

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nuncio_populi OP t1_jcwps23 wrote

I’ll say it again louder for those who willfully refuse to hear: THE STATE DEP PLAN INCLUDES 60 ACRES FOR SPORTS.

The People’s Park plan is a gross overdevelopment of the park that would pave over large open spaces to put up closed-off stadiums and concert venues. Not even Central Park has anything comparable to what Fireman’s cronies want to put up.

Also, what a bad take: A park goer doesn’t have to be an environmentalist or bird watcher to enjoy nature. A state park is supposed to be a resource to enjoy being outdoors; it’s not supposed to be Disney Land.

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nuncio_populi OP t1_jcv67u3 wrote

Well, that's the lie, right? Richard Smith claims that those of us who oppose the People Park plans also oppose any work being done in the park, and that simply isn't true.

If what the state has indicated is true, we're going to be getting some nice ball fields, restored wildlife habitat, and miles and miles of new trails because they'll have remediated the contaminated interior.

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nuncio_populi t1_jcpqshq wrote

Just so we can all skip the faux outrage because the title conflates two separate stories — What the article actually says is that the State of NJ also supports the Pompidou museum coming to Jersey City because they view it as an anchor in the redevelopment of Journal Square.

If you are concerned about who funded the mayor's trip, that's a very valid issue and should be discussed. But it deserves its own articles and threads.

There just isn't any need to stir up outrage over routine state funding for the arts that is unrelated to Fulop's jaunt to Paris.

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nuncio_populi t1_ja2xonn wrote

They’re generally supposed to be done every five years in most municipalities to ensure the tax burden is shared equitably.

Our last one was about five years ago but, as you know, that particular reassessment was extremely overdue and Fulop tried to delay it further to protect Dixon Leasing.

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