red75prime
red75prime t1_ivj0yb6 wrote
Reply to Vox Populis by Plumpuddin74
It is intended to be Vox Populis (it's probably something like "voice (given?) to the (multitiple groups of) people") instead of Vox Populi (voice of the people)?
red75prime t1_iverg6i wrote
Reply to comment by TheDividendReport in In the face on the Anthropocene by apple_achia
> the thousands of years I could be a human, I wind up in this time?
It can be continued. The decades I could ponder those questions. The minutes I could observe this date and time on a calendar. And so on. Reference class problem.
Going the other direction, if you disentangle consciousness from everything that links it to whatever you observe now, it would be equally present in every conscious being, so the question "why it is present in me?" loses surprise. It is present wherever whenever, so in me too, no biggie.
red75prime t1_ive4zwp wrote
Reply to comment by maxiderpie in In the face on the Anthropocene by apple_achia
Solar and wind power has a problem with intermittency, you need to store energy oftentimes (or set negative prices). With right incentives air-to-syntetic-fuel process could probably be made a viable alternative to storing excess energy in hydrogen or some other form.
Solar updraft tower, for example, can provide both energy and airflow.
ETA: Ah, I see the problem. You also need to pay for permanent carbon storage and there's conflict of interests. Why would you bury all that carbon if you can profit on fuel? It applies to privately owned facilities as well as governments.
On the other hand, going carbon negative requires political will in either case, and if you go air-to-fuel route you'll have carbon-capture-ready infrastructure.
red75prime t1_ive3lne wrote
Reply to comment by TheDividendReport in In the face on the Anthropocene by apple_achia
I suspect that there's something wrong with the idea that I'm randomly chosen from a pool of all sentient beings. I can't express the problem clearly, but it looks like that the idea requires existence of supernatural "essence of me" that could have been instantiated in other sentient being, while that being has nothing in common with me (beside sentience).
red75prime t1_ive1jo3 wrote
Reply to comment by maxiderpie in In the face on the Anthropocene by apple_achia
Extra CO2 that is already out there is not going away if we stop burning fossil fuels. Well, it goes away by natural means like phytoplankton and forest carbon capture, but too slow. Anyway, usage of carbon capture as a publicity stunt doesn't contradict it's usefulness in combating climate change. People just need to recognize when it's being used as a deception (but, yeah, it may be a bit too high standard to meet).
red75prime t1_ivafssn wrote
Reply to comment by apple_achia in In the face on the Anthropocene by apple_achia
Population growth: education is the best contraceptive, and AGI can immensely improve the educational system.
Fossil fuels: if you have a fully automated synthetic fuel factory that needs sunlight, water, air, a bit of materials for robot maintenance, and a carbon tax in place, you will outcompete automatic fossil fuel extractors. The green will probably go mad over the perspective of disrupting fragile desert ecosystems and returning brine to the oceans on unprecedented levels, but you win some, you lose some.
Resource extraction: the same thing, recycling is not profitable and maybe even not ecologically beneficial right now (you need energy, that mostly comes from fossil fuels, to process all that stuff). AGI can change that by providing negative carbon energy (and brains) to sort and process it.
Ecology: it will probably suffer for some time. Delays in UBI introduction will push more people into subsistence farming.
Nuclear waste: deep geological storage is not "kicking the can down the road". After 200-300 years the waste will be not much more harmful than natural uranium deposits and it will be a useful source of radioactive elements.
red75prime t1_iuv8e8s wrote
Reply to comment by TheSingulatarian in What will the creation of ASI lead to? by TheHamsterSandwich
Oh man, crowd control systems will surely benefit from AI usage too.
red75prime t1_iuuzbuq wrote
Reply to comment by slightlycolourblind in Scientists Increasingly Can’t Explain How AI Works - AI researchers are warning developers to focus more on how and why a system produces certain results than the fact that the system can accurately and rapidly produce them. by Kujo17
> medical science/research is overwhelmingly biased towards white men
And when it isn't it creates another kind of political problems like the ones with isosorbide dinitrate/hydralazine.
red75prime t1_iuhihjz wrote
Reply to comment by tornpentacle in Conscious Reality Is Only a Memory of Unconscious Actions, Scientists Propose In Radical New Theory by mossadnik
The description is so high-level that a PID controller matches it.
red75prime t1_iuh1w96 wrote
Reply to comment by Minute-Hyena-407 in Space: The Immoral Frontier by ADefiniteDescription
> It would be like if you got your kid a car and they destroyed it by neglect.
Nah. Humanity isn't a single intelligent agent. The analogy would be more like: people are wrecking a shared car and there's no central authority to assign responsibility of fixing it, so a smaller group of people starts building their own car, because they cannot unilaterally fix the shared one.
red75prime t1_iu4in64 wrote
Reply to comment by Equivalent-Ice-7274 in The Great People Shortage is coming — and it's going to cause global economic chaos | Researchers predict that the world's population will decline in the next 40 years due to declining birth rates — and it will cause a massive shortage of workers. by Shelfrock77
Yep, Gates' law: "Most people overestimate what they can achieve in a year and underestimate what they can achieve in ten years."
red75prime t1_iu4hadn wrote
Reply to comment by Equivalent-Ice-7274 in The Great People Shortage is coming — and it's going to cause global economic chaos | Researchers predict that the world's population will decline in the next 40 years due to declining birth rates — and it will cause a massive shortage of workers. by Shelfrock77
Ah, engineering problems. They are certainly a factor. However, AIs seem to be good at coming up with potential solutions (take AlphaFold for example) and prototyping and testing could be made highly parallelized in AI-controlled R&D.
red75prime t1_iu4c2ky wrote
Reply to comment by Equivalent-Ice-7274 in The Great People Shortage is coming — and it's going to cause global economic chaos | Researchers predict that the world's population will decline in the next 40 years due to declining birth rates — and it will cause a massive shortage of workers. by Shelfrock77
I agree on the unrealistic expectation of 2 years. The closest thing to human agility we have is Boston Dynamics robots which use hand-tuned dynamic control algorithms. This approach is not scalable by itself and it's unlikely that it will be integrated with machine learning approaches in 2 years. Or that the transformer-based robotic control will scale to realtime control of humanoid (or equally complex) robot.
But at some point AI controlled robots will start feeding back into manufacture of AI hardware. At that point AI-based economy will explode by removing inefficiencies of human-based economy (coordination problems, lengthy learning time, wages and so on).
It will not take much time after that for operating cost of a universal robot to sink below minimum wage.
Every year that passes increases probability of such an explosion. So 2040s can (and most likely will) be in an entirely different era than 2030s.
That's why I distrust confident technological predictions on the scales of 20 years or more.
red75prime t1_itvfq06 wrote
Reply to comment by Lawjarp2 in Our Conscious Experience of the World Is But a Memory, Says New Theory by Shelfrock77
You have to be a god to observe it though. I guess that you aren't, so if you write down something like "I decided to do such and such, because so and so" and you aren't prone to procrastination and impulsivity, you'll find yourself doing that and not some other random thing. And the question is: why do you care?
red75prime t1_itu1mgw wrote
Reply to comment by EmotionalHemophilia in If you lived on a planet in the center of the Milky Way would the nighttime be significantly brighter compared to Earth’s nighttime due to the larger concentration of stars? by bad_take_
Smile on a bullet... Ugh. There's something revolting in this notion to me. Maybe the antagonists were too life-like to take them only as an allegory.
red75prime t1_ittt4x3 wrote
Yep, I feel that my 50% AGI probability by 2033 prediction slides down. Nevertheless, I will not update it to less than a year until I see 99% precision on logical/common-sense tasks and working, episodic and procedural memory implementation in AI.
red75prime t1_ittpv0p wrote
Reply to comment by ihateshadylandlords in It's important to keep in mind that the singularity could create heaven on Earth for us. *Or* literal hell. Human priorities are the determining factor. by Pepperstache
We have a working non-artificial superintelligence: humanity as a whole. So, "never" is not an option barring some bizarre and unlikely discoveries (computationally superior "souls" that we cannot replicate technologically, for example). Taking such possibilities seriously with no evidence looks more like superstition than open mind to me.
red75prime t1_itr91nl wrote
Reply to comment by 4e_65_6f in Large Language Models Can Self-Improve by xutw21
I can bet 50 to 1 that the method of self-improvement from this paper will not lead to the AI capable of bootstrapping itself to AGI level with no help from humans.
red75prime t1_itq84xs wrote
Reply to comment by 4e_65_6f in Large Language Models Can Self-Improve by xutw21
Working memory (which probably can be a stepping stone to self-awareness).
Long-term memory of various kinds (episodic, semantic, procedural (which should go hand in hand with lifetime learning)).
Specialized modules for motion planning (which probably could be useful in general planning).
High-level attention management mechanisms (which most likely will be learned implicitly).
red75prime t1_itoxv2y wrote
Reply to comment by hiptobecubic in [R] Large Language Models Can Self-Improve by Lajamerr_Mittesdine
Greeks arguably got rules of logic out of this.
red75prime t1_itlxjbf wrote
Reply to comment by Redvolition in Given the exponential rate of improvement to prompt based image/video generation, in how many years do you think we'll see entire movies generated from a prompt? by yea_okay_dude
Phenaki has the same problem: limited span of temporal consistency that cannot be easily scaled up. If an object goes offscreen for some time the model forgets how it should look.
red75prime t1_itk9f2j wrote
Reply to comment by Redvolition in Given the exponential rate of improvement to prompt based image/video generation, in how many years do you think we'll see entire movies generated from a prompt? by yea_okay_dude
> (Q4 2028) An average to low end computer or cheap subscription service is capable of generating high resolution and frame rate videos spanning several minutes.
If it will take days to render them, then maybe.
AIs don't yet significantly feed back into design and physical construction of the chip fabrication plants, so by 2028 we'll have one or two 2nm fabs and the majority of new consumer CPUs and GPUs will be using 3-5nm technology. Hardware costs will not drop significantly too (fabs are costly), so 2028 low-end will be around today's high-end performance-wise (with less RAM and storage).
Anyway, I would shift perfect long-term temporal consistency to 2026-2032 as it depends on integrating working and long-term memory into existing AI architectures and there's yet no clear path to that.
red75prime t1_itk6c0n wrote
Reply to comment by ReadSeparate in Given the exponential rate of improvement to prompt based image/video generation, in how many years do you think we'll see entire movies generated from a prompt? by yea_okay_dude
I'm sure that any practical AI system that will be able to generate movies will not do it all by itself. It will use external tools to not waste its memory and computational resources on mundane tasks of keeping exact 3d positions of objects and remembering all the intricacies of their textures and surface properties.
red75prime t1_itf04q8 wrote
Reply to comment by Yuli-Ban in I have a good feeling about 2023. by AsuhoChinami
Don't forget China and Taiwan (where the world's only 3nm chip fabs are).
red75prime t1_ivoiy3c wrote
Reply to comment by geneing in [D] What does it mean for an AI to understand? (Chinese Room Argument) - MLST Video by timscarfe