the_honeyman

the_honeyman t1_iu29ht3 wrote

Really sucks the owner turned out to be nothing more than a fraudster. They were delicious.

Oh well, at least Mimi's Soulfood is holding down the fried chicken game.

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the_honeyman t1_itrwufv wrote

Reply to comment by Low_Tourist in Vote NO on Question #1 by [deleted]

I'm glad it's happening on C Street. That wasn't really affordable housing up there anyway, unless you're talking about them ripping into the neighborhoods around C Street.

This town is so weird. "There's nothing to do/that part is run down, but God forbid anybody put money into developing the town."

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the_honeyman t1_itrqszq wrote

All of those issues stem from people who live on the south side going "just ignore the north side."

Are there problems up here? Yes. Are they nearly as bad as what the south siders make it out? Not even close. Will they get any better as long as yall have the "just ignore it" attitude? Fuck no.

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the_honeyman t1_itr7v41 wrote

Yea, the subdivision thing was more about continuing to push single family developments towards Rogersville, Ozark, and Nixa because people constantly make interior development such a headache. Even the Grant Avenue parkway caused a ruckus, so I'm not singling out Galloway on that particular issue.

Your second sentence is why something like this, with a developer that is adding back green space into their plan and making it mixed use, feels like something to encourage.

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the_honeyman t1_itr3d9v wrote

Reply to comment by banjomin in Vote NO on Question #1 by [deleted]

No, it sounds like the "no more corporate housing" is a convienent excuse for you to hide behind.

Who is going to develop affordable housing complexes? Continue dodging the question if you want.

Edit: blocked? Lol.

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the_honeyman t1_itr355x wrote

Reply to comment by Cold417 in Vote NO on Question #1 by [deleted]

As much as it could have without having the money to do so. Didn't you see the Facebook groups?

Tongue in cheek aside, yes, there were people upset by the development downtown. Turning affordable housing into expensive apartment complexes. My point is, people only really care about that stuff when it's threatening their own back yard. Which is why wealthy neighborhoods stay wealthy, single family, and car-centric, and low income neighborhoods become expensive corporate housing hellholes.

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the_honeyman t1_itr23o7 wrote

Reply to comment by banjomin in Vote NO on Question #1 by [deleted]

I'm not talking about this development with that question. I'm asking who you think is going to develop affordable housing in Springfield, in general? Do you think affordable housing will be funded primarily by private individuals? Or do you think apartment complexes, hopefully with some form of rent control, will be developed by corporate interests?

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the_honeyman t1_itr1oxi wrote

Reply to comment by Cold417 in Vote NO on Question #1 by [deleted]

And the argument that the main problem with this proposal is the corporate nature of it rings hollow when corporate development is perfectly fine in the low income areas.

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the_honeyman t1_itqzlse wrote

Reply to comment by Cold417 in Vote NO on Question #1 by [deleted]

So it's fine for affordable housing to be demolished in favor of expensive downtown apartments for students, because the neighborhood didn't have enough money to fight it, but it's not ok for mixed use development to occur in a place that wouldn't be expanding urban sprawl because the rich people who live there don't want it close to them?

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the_honeyman t1_itqz6ol wrote

Reply to comment by banjomin in Vote NO on Question #1 by [deleted]

Who do you think will develop the affordable housing we need so much? It's not going to be private individuals funding apartment complex builds, its going to be a corporation or two.

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the_honeyman t1_itqyvm0 wrote

Reply to comment by banjomin in Vote NO on Question #1 by [deleted]

As I said in another comment, these exact same arguments were trotted out in relation to the bike trails and other proposals. Yall don't want your property values to be impacted by an apartment complex. Fair argument. Being upset specifically by the "corporate" part of the development smacks of "it was fine until it impacted me."

You all are just as opposed to the corporate housing development occurring around Missouri State, then? Where was the campaign to stop Grad School being demolished in favor of corporate apartments?

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