So it literally just combined those pictures. Cool.

It's a stream dude....they all look pretty similar lmao

>Such a quiet walk

Spoken like a true flatlander lol. So quiet minus the shrieks of spoiled rich children on vacation, people who have $4k moutainbikes and won't leave the path, cars whizzing by on the nearby road, etc.

Or stores...or garages....or grange halls...or houses.

I know two old steeple-d churches that are now private residences, one that is a grocery store, and one that is a garage. I'm sure there are other uses as well.

Damn dude you must be tired from carrying that dead old joke for so long.

My neighboring town has a store in a steeple! Very Vermonty!

The color of this picture makes it feel like some dooms day picture

**I once saw a Hallmark Christmas movie and therefore know all about Vermont and what is Vermonty**

- people in this sub probably

I love how it is simultaneously picturesque, quaint, calm, and bucolic and yet also has undertones of dread, apocalypse, and stagnant growth lol.

>I have a daughter. She is going to college

Hopefully at the school where you work lol. My dad tried for years to become a fleet mechanic at UVM so that my sister and I could get free tuition. Applied for and got the job shortly before my sister started applying for college but had second thoughts about leaving his old job since he was working for a friend. Sister said there was NO WAY she would every stay in state so my dad declined the job offer.

Guess who ended up going to school in state? Would have saved my parents, sister, and I about $150-$200k overall if he had taken the job!

Totally, but the rhetoric that now a bachelor's is worthless is total bullshit propagated by academia and the finances driving education in our country unfortunately.

But you're right, my dad has been a mechanic all of his life. Unfortunately this is probably the worst paid trade especially for regular consumer vehicles. He makes pretty good money now but he was always useless on the weekends because he would be so sore and tired and he is at the point now where he HAS to change careers because his body can't do it anymore. He has also never had benefits or retirement. That being said, guys he worked with when he was 30 now make 6 figures doing the same thing other places. So again it's way more complex than "you NEED a graduate degree these days"

>Since I didn’t say it and you felt I insinuated it then you’re displaying an inability to think critically.

You literally did say it..."trades people can make a lot of dough whereas people who know how to think critically"

You don't need much critical thinking or reading comprehension skills to understand what you meant by this. And just because you go on to say that a lot of college grads don't have critical thinking skills doesn't make your other comment ok/true. Honestly most of the people I know in the trades have better critical and practical thinking skills than most college grads that I know since most college grads can't think outside of what they've been taught/told.

Your last paragraph (really last line) here is all true, but it took you making some silly points to get there.

You're misunderstanding. The folks in trades are doing just as much critical thinking as you CPU jockeys. So there's no difference in critical thinking ability or amount - just different things to think critically about.

Troubleshooting a very complex electrical or plumbing system is really not that far from troubleshooting a broken code or something along those lines, and often requires more peripheral knowledge and physical skill than coding does.

I stopped reading when you insinuated that tradespeople don’t need to know how to think critically. I can’t take anything else you say seriously after that my man.

Yes it’s true that a lot of trades cap out, but it’s also true that a lot of people with masters and PhDs never make more than 6 figures. At the end of the day critical thinking is not the deciding factor.

Fuck that lol

And when they do they can do the work in 6mo

You're both wrong, but wrong in the way that society wants you to be wrong. The trades are hiring faster than ever and often you can make more than someone with a graduate degree within a few years.

Society really wants everyone to believe they need a PhD, but in reality we need plumbers, electricians, carpenters, etc.

Everyone I know in the trades has a lucrative career. The majority of people I know with graduate degrees struggle to make a decent living and usually make less than the tradesmen.

Hell, I have a bachelors in a science field and got a well paying job out of college and now make pretty close to $100k 7 years later. My sister had to give up on her PhD because it was too expensive and now can’t find a decent paying job with her masters.

In the end it’s much more about what you do than the letters after your name.

Perch caught through the ice and whatever frozen fries the store had 😚👌

Once upon a time the only people doing much outside were hunters, and most were trained on the ethics and courteousness that you describe in regards to asking permission and paying back with some sort of good deed.

Nowadays with people recreating it many other ways, many don’t even stop and consider getting permission to be somewhere on their skis or whatever. Not to mention a lot of hunters are new age hunters who aren’t privy to the old ways

Cops make a shit load. Hell, most remaining Burlington cops make about $100k too.

Meanwhile they’ll spend the majority of their shift hanging out in their car wearing thousands in free gea or shooting the shit with their friends and meanwhile a teacher who is busting her ass and spending half of her paycheck on supplies makes $35k.

Narcotics investigation unit…. 🤔

Also $95k a year plus free drugs?? I’m in the wrong line of work.

IDK but OPs about to have a blowout

Yesterday everyone in my house except for one person had crocs on. The vast majority of the people in my house yesterday also don’t live here lol. Us Vermonters travel with our crocs apparently.

Southern VT also has plenty of snow right now. I think OP lives in an alternate timeline. Or more likely not at all from Vermont and just sharing this picture from a time they were in VT as if this is somehow unique to VT

Well that’s rhe issue. They’re saying that your service has power, not that your service is connected to your house. But absolutely still worthwhile to let them know.