whaletacochamp

whaletacochamp t1_j38n6k5 wrote

Damn this is a ton of good info. I almost went into the generator maintenance stuff but figured OP wasn't even considering a route where that would matter.

Another really good idea is to call your electric provider and chat with them. They may very well have recommendations, programs, contractors they like to work with, etc.

I'm pretty much in the same boat as OP currently but have LPG onsite. Just a tricky run to the house and not enough money to get the infrastructure setup and generator purchased...

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whaletacochamp t1_j387j1d wrote

We had HughesNet before this which was borderline fraud for what we paid and what we got.

We also have a ton of trees (literally live in the woods) including one huge one that obstructs a good portion of dishy to the point where the app says expect an outage every two minutes (during the leafed parts of the year that is) and the only time I ever have issues is quick two seconds lags on Teams or Zoom meetings with a lot of people.

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whaletacochamp t1_j386yp5 wrote

Chat with whoever is your go to septic crew. There’s pretty likely a period of time where you’re safe to use your system without power.

In that case all you need is to fill a few buckets (or your tub) with water before a possible power outage. Then you go poop and dump a bunch of water into the toilet and it will flush just like normal.

I absolutely blew my wife’s mind with this tidbit the first time we lost power at our house. Luckily we have a pond so unlimited flush water lol

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whaletacochamp t1_j38346h wrote

It’s definitely a big change moving from municipal to rural.

If you have any question call out the septic company (the folks who would pump your tank) and they’ll be happy to tell you all about it.

What part of the state are you in now? I highly recommend Working Dog Septic if you’re in Franklin county or norther Chittenden.

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whaletacochamp t1_j37yywy wrote

Water is only an issue if you're on a well (which it sounds like you probably are) and septic is only an issue if you have some sort of ejector pump or macerator or something along those lines. Many many septic systems are gravity fed (you just need water to flush the toilet)

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whaletacochamp t1_j37ys3q wrote

> Propane isn't as energy dense as oil/diesel, but the shelf life is perfect, and no clogged carbs/injectors if it's been sitting for...a while.

This is definitely the selling point for propane. Just kinda sucky if you don't already have propane on site.

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whaletacochamp t1_j37ykef wrote

Not to be pedantic, but.....the batteries that you are talking about are quite literally backup batteries to power your house. They aren't "battery powered generators" since a battery powered generator would be kinda counterproductive.

Annnyway. Backup batteries work pretty well. Remember that they are always charged and ready to go, so you don't necessarily need sunny sky to have power. You DO need to have sunny sky to recharge them via solar, however. Capacity and time of coverage depends on the system and size of the system. My neighbors have a system and they were able to go two days - but I believe the batteries only run their well, boiler, septic pump, and a couple of lights.

Personally I wouldn't go with a propane generator unless you already have propane onsite. Just seems like a lot of extra peripherals and pain setting up delivery etc. With that being said, it is certainly the lowest maintenance option and probably best for someone who has limited knowledge/comfortability with small engines. You can also get ones that run off natural gas but since you heat with oil I'm guessing that's not an option.

We heat with propane and I'm planning on installing a generator right next to our propane tank for this exact reason. But if we didn't have propane I would just keep a big can of gas on hand all winter for the generator.

Be aware that if you are having a company come out and do the whole shebang they are going to cost quite a lot. You will have an incredibly good system that's easy to use at the end but it will not be cheap and they will likely have you on the hook for yearly maintenance (which is important but not cheap). So if you are at all familiar/comfortable with this sort of stuff it can be considerably cheaper to buy your own generator, pay an electrician to come out and do the wiring for you, and then just hook it up and start it up when you lose power. The company your working with will likely want to sell auto cut-over which is not cheap, but is wicked convenient.

NEVER RUN THE GENERATOR WITHIN 20' OF YOUR HOUSE (although any new generator will have a low oxygen/CO cutoff and some units are designed to be closer). NEVER BACK FEED A PANEL WITHOUT A TRANSFER SWITCH

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whaletacochamp t1_j36ljrv wrote

Green Mountain Mainlines (Sloan) and Mayotte.

Supposedly GMM is the second biggest in the state but that’s just what my neighbor told me…

Mayotte taps my tees and last I checked my property hadn’t even been tapped yet. Heading out momentarily to check.

Didn’t realize the Brannons were so big. My dad use to hunt with the family at their camp in Waterville/Bakersfield and they definitely had lines back then but I don’t think it was a huge operation. Of course this was 20+ years ago

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whaletacochamp t1_j34el3j wrote

So really a blank slate!! I will say that, as someone who has spent a decent amount of time around florida, Vermont is about as polar opposite as you can get from florida and not just in terms of weather!

How much time between when you land and when you have to get to your hotel? and is the hotel in waitsfield (maybe Mad River or Sugarbush?) there’s a lot to do in Burlington by the airport, and a decent bit to do between the airport and waitsfield.

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